>> present. >> commissioner chu >> carmen chuy. commissioner cohen >> commissioner elsbernd >> present. >> commissioner >> commissioner >> present. >> vice chair wiener. we have quorum. >> please call item two. approval of the minutes. >> before we take action to this item. is there a member of the public that would like to speak on item two? seeing none. public comment is closed. colleagues, you have the minutes of the meeting before you. if we can take a motion to approve the minutes. motion by commissioner avalos. seconded by commissioner farrell. we will take that without objection. >> on item two. roll call. campos, >> roll call taken. item passes. >> if you can please call item number three. >> report, this is an information item. thank you very much. colleagues i have a very brief report today. we had two significant transportation events. on october 11th, we hosted the u.s. secretary of transportation, ray lahood as well as our house minority leader, nancy pelosi at at ceremony to mark the approval of the federal government grant for the central subway. this is a com

farrell's colleagues. campos, elsbernd, chiu, weaner and cohen. >> do we have any commissioner comments? >> just for my own education, how is this going to work in 2014 when -- [multiple voices] >> explain that to folks [speaker not understood]. >> small businesses will be able to get the payroll expense tax exclusion with our legislation through 2016. it won't be until actually february of 2017 when they apply -- when they let the tax collector know about their -- the actual amount that they paid in payroll out for 2016. so, they actually -- and as gross receipts phases in, that will be starting 2014, their payroll tax liability will start to go down. so, in 2014 it reduces i think by 75%. so, it's 1-1/2% now and starting in 2014 it will be 75% of that. then slowly going down from there. >> thanks. >> any other commissioner comments? >> yeah, i would just say that this -- sorry to recap or go backwards here. it's basically to protect the small businesses to be not clobbered in the intervening years between now and when the gross receipts come into effect? >> it does. it helps the phasi

elsbernd, representing the save hetch hetchy no on f campaign. gentlemen, thanks so much for taking the time to be with us today. >> thank you. >> mike, i'd like to give you the opportunity to make a brief statement of your work on the proposition. >> wonderful, thank you. proposition f is about san francisco's values, it's about their environmental values. in real short explanation, it requires the city to develop a plan for the future to guarantee our water security and begin to undo the damage that our current water system does to the environment. the plan would then be brought back to the voters in 2016 for their aprafl or disapproval so it's placing the city on a trajectory we're not currently on. we don't recycle any water, we've abandoned most ground water since hetch hetchy became available and we've done real damage to the tuolome river and we begin it's time to get in line with the city's values. it's a plan the voters ultimately get to approve. >> i disagree. i think proposition f is about one thing and one thing only, about forcing the city to spend $8 million dollars to